Maia Alpha 0.33 test build.

Discussion of Maia's on going development, including modding.
cyder534
Posts: 5
Joined: Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:07 pm

Re: Maia Alpha 0.33 test build.

Post by cyder534 » Fri Aug 30, 2013 8:45 pm

Ahhh! I gave it another go. Had a FMOD 54 crash on the title screen. Then it worked. I avoided digging, everything fine. Then I went to dig. Dug one block, IMP dropped off minerals in supply. FMOD 89 again. Think you're both onto something!

Klax
Posts: 12
Joined: Fri Aug 02, 2013 8:46 pm

Re: Maia Alpha 0.33 test build.

Post by Klax » Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:07 am

Left the game running for a bit, came back to it crashed with FMOD error 89 a bunch of times as well as error 47 at the end. Which like other people are saying looks like it might be related to the imp digging as i told him to dig a square right when i left the comp and it looks like the game froze as soon as he dug it. My ambient sound/music keeps playing after i crash as well if thats at all relevent.

SilverWarior
Posts: 18
Joined: Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:04 pm

Re: Maia Alpha 0.33 test build.

Post by SilverWarior » Sat Aug 31, 2013 2:05 pm

Like many others I'm still expiriencing random crashes related to FMod sound system.

Anywhay I did manage to modify shader files again so I can athleast run the game.

Here are modified shaders for Maia 0.33 build which should compile on older graphics cards with Level 3 shader support.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/653 ... haders.zip
NOTE: Since I only changed the first line in the shader files which define the minimum shader level support required for compiling these shaders they could cause new unexpected bugs.
USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!

kevok
Posts: 22
Joined: Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:03 pm

Re: Maia Alpha 0.33 test build.

Post by kevok » Sun Sep 01, 2013 1:20 am

Sorry, I've been away the last two weeks, picking up with A.33
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No explanation necessary, I had this happen before as well, but it was hard to reproduce.
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IMO, the shaders seem to be having tons of derp moments, the grey shadow on the right is from the placement box on the left.
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EDIT:
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Room deletion is hella buggy.
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AMD Phenom II X6 1045T
Nvidia GeForce GTX 560
2x 4GB DDR3 1333MHz
Windows 7 x64

miiike4t5
Posts: 1
Joined: Fri May 03, 2013 11:58 pm

Re: Maia Alpha 0.33 test build.

Post by miiike4t5 » Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:09 pm

Hi the game seems to crash a hell of a lot more since 0.33a :cry:

Code: Select all

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System Information
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Time of this report: 9/1/2013, 12:50:08
       Machine name: MIKE-PC
   Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_rtm.090713-1255)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
       System Model: GA-870A-UD3
               BIOS: Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG
          Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1055T Processor (6 CPUs), ~3.4GHz
             Memory: 8192MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 8190MB RAM
          Page File: 2888MB used, 13488MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\Windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
   User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
 System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
    DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
     DxDiag Version: 6.01.7600.16385 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
------------
      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 3: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
--------------------
Direct3D:    0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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          Card name: AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series
       Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
          Chip type: AMD Radeon Graphics Processor (0x6739)
           DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
         Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6739&SUBSYS_174B174B&REV_00
     Display Memory: 1778 MB
   Dedicated Memory: 2035 MB
      Shared Memory: 3838 MB
       Current Mode: 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (60Hz)
       Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
      Monitor Model: VA2216w-2
         Monitor Id: VSC2920
        Native Mode: 1680 x 1050(p) (59.954Hz)
        Output Type: HD15
        Driver Name: aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx32,aticfx32,aticfx32,atiumd64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atiumdag,atidxx32,atidxx32,atiumdva,atiumd6a.cap,atitmm64.dll
Driver File Version: 8.17.0010.1191 (English)
     Driver Version: 12.104.0.0
        DDI Version: 10.1
       Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
  Driver Attributes: Final Retail
   Driver Date/Size: 3/29/2013 03:37:02, 1155264 bytes
        WHQL Logo'd: n/a
    WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
  Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-2479-11CF-5C70-4137BEC2C535}
          Vendor ID: 0x1002
          Device ID: 0x6739
          SubSys ID: 0x174B174B
        Revision ID: 0x0000
 Driver Strong Name: oem1.inf:ATI.Mfg.NTamd64.6.1:ati2mtag_NI:12.104.0.0:pci\ven_1002&dev_6739
     Rank Of Driver: 00E62001
        Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C 
   Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive 
                     {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch 
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY 
                     {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive 
                     {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch 
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY 
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x32315659) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {3C5323C1-6FB7-44F5-9081-056BF2EE449D}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive 
                     {552C0DAD-CCBC-420B-83C8-74943CF9F1A6}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive 
                     {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive 
                     {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch 
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY 
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC1,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC2,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC3,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC4,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(S340,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(S342,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
       D3D9 Overlay: Not Supported
            DXVA-HD: Not Supported
       DDraw Status: Enabled
         D3D Status: Enabled
         AGP Status: Enabled

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Sound Devices
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            Description: Speakers (3- Razer Megalodon)
 Default Sound Playback: Yes
 Default Voice Playback: Yes
            Hardware ID: USB\VID_1532&PID_000E&REV_0001&MI_00
        Manufacturer ID: 65535
             Product ID: 65535
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: USBAUDIO.sys
         Driver Version: 6.01.7600.16385 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: n/a
          Date and Size: 7/14/2009 01:06:32, 109568 bytes
            Other Files: 
        Driver Provider: Microsoft
         HW Accel Level: Basic
              Cap Flags: 0xF1F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

            Description: Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device)
 Default Sound Playback: No
 Default Voice Playback: No
            Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0892&SUBSYS_1458A102&REV_1003
        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 65535
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: HdAudio.sys
         Driver Version: 6.01.7600.16385 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: n/a
          Date and Size: 7/14/2009 01:07:00, 350208 bytes
            Other Files: 
        Driver Provider: Microsoft
         HW Accel Level: Basic
              Cap Flags: 0xF1F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

            Description: Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device)
 Default Sound Playback: No
 Default Voice Playback: No
            Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0892&SUBSYS_1458A102&REV_1003
        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 65535
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: HdAudio.sys
         Driver Version: 6.01.7600.16385 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: n/a
          Date and Size: 7/14/2009 01:07:00, 350208 bytes
            Other Files: 
        Driver Provider: Microsoft
         HW Accel Level: Basic
              Cap Flags: 0xF1F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

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Sound Capture Devices
---------------------
            Description: Microphone (3- Razer Megalodon)
  Default Sound Capture: Yes
  Default Voice Capture: Yes
            Driver Name: USBAUDIO.sys
         Driver Version: 6.01.7600.16385 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
          Date and Size: 7/14/2009 01:06:32, 109568 bytes
              Cap Flags: 0x1
           Format Flags: 0xFFFFF

            Description: Microphone (High Definition Audio Device)
  Default Sound Capture: No
  Default Voice Capture: No
            Driver Name: HdAudio.sys
         Driver Version: 6.01.7600.16385 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
          Date and Size: 7/14/2009 01:07:00, 350208 bytes
              Cap Flags: 0x1
           Format Flags: 0xFFFFF

            Description: Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device)
  Default Sound Capture: No
  Default Voice Capture: No
            Driver Name: HdAudio.sys
         Driver Version: 6.01.7600.16385 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
          Date and Size: 7/14/2009 01:07:00, 350208 bytes
              Cap Flags: 0x1
           Format Flags: 0xFFFFF

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DirectInput Devices
-------------------
      Device Name: Mouse
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Keyboard
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x06A3, 0x0763
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Razer BlackWidow Ultimate
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x1532, 0x011A
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Razer BlackWidow Ultimate
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x1532, 0x011A
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Razer BlackWidow Ultimate
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x1532, 0x011A
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Razer BlackWidow Ultimate
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x1532, 0x011A
        FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No

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USB Devices
-----------
+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x1002, 0x4397
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub

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Gameport Devices
----------------

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PS/2 Devices
------------
+ HID Keyboard Device
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x1532, 0x011A
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard
| Service: kbdhid
| 
+ Razer BlackWidow Ultimate
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x1532, 0x011A
| Matching Device ID: hid\vid_1532&pid_011a&mi_01&col01
| Upper Filters: rzudd
| Service: kbdhid
| 
+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
| 
+ HID-compliant mouse
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x06A3, 0x0CCB
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_mouse
| Service: mouhid
| 
+ Razer BlackWidow Ultimate
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x1532, 0x011A
| Matching Device ID: hid\vid_1532&pid_011a&mi_02
| Upper Filters: rzudd
| Service: mouhid
| 
+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD

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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
------------------------
      Drive: C:
 Free Space: 3.9 GB
Total Space: 57.2 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: OCZ-VERTEX2 ATA Device

      Drive: E:
 Free Space: 109.3 GB
Total Space: 953.9 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: WDC WD10EALX-009BA0 ATA Device

      Drive: D:
      Model: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7203S ATA Device
     Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), , 0 bytes

      Drive: F:
      Model: MagicISO Virtual DVD-ROM0000
     Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), , 0 bytes

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System Devices
--------------
     Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1202&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&18D45AA6&0&C2
   Driver: n/a

     Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5957&SUBSYS_59571002&REV_00\3&18D45AA6&0&00
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4397&SUBSYS_50041458&REV_00\3&18D45AA6&0&B0
   Driver: n/a

     Name: ATI I/O Communications Processor PCI Bus Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4384&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_40\3&18D45AA6&0&A4
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_197B&DEV_2363&SUBSYS_B0001458&REV_03\4&88E5031&0&0050
   Driver: n/a

     Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1201&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&18D45AA6&0&C1
   Driver: n/a

     Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_43A3&SUBSYS_00001002&REV_00\3&18D45AA6&0&AB
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4397&SUBSYS_50041458&REV_00\3&18D45AA6&0&98
   Driver: n/a

     Name: High Definition Audio Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4383&SUBSYS_A1021458&REV_40\3&18D45AA6&0&A2
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_197B&DEV_2363&SUBSYS_B0001458&REV_02\4&1A75311A&0&00A8
   Driver: n/a

     Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1200&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&18D45AA6&0&C0
   Driver: n/a

     Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_43A2&SUBSYS_00001002&REV_00\3&18D45AA6&0&AA
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4397&SUBSYS_50041458&REV_00\3&18D45AA6&0&90
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Realtek RTL8168D/8111D Family PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.20)
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10EC&DEV_8168&SUBSYS_E0001458&REV_03\4&3694E160&0&00A9
   Driver: n/a

     Name: High Definition Audio Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_AA88&SUBSYS_AA88174B&REV_00\4&2B98F9DC&0&0110
   Driver: n/a

     Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_43A1&SUBSYS_00001002&REV_00\3&18D45AA6&0&A9
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4396&SUBSYS_50041458&REV_00\3&18D45AA6&0&B2
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Texas Instruments 1394 OHCI Compliant Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_104C&DEV_8024&SUBSYS_10001458&REV_00\4&340CE6FE&0&70A4
   Driver: n/a

     Name: AMD Radeon HD 6800 Series
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6739&SUBSYS_174B174B&REV_00\4&2B98F9DC&0&0010
   Driver: n/a

     Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_43A0&SUBSYS_00001002&REV_00\3&18D45AA6&0&A8
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4396&SUBSYS_50041458&REV_00\3&18D45AA6&0&9A
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Universal Serial Bus (USB) Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1033&DEV_0194&SUBSYS_50071458&REV_03\4&91A636&0&0048
   Driver: n/a

     Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_597F&SUBSYS_59571002&REV_00\3&18D45AA6&0&50
   Driver: n/a

     Name: PCI standard ISA bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_439D&SUBSYS_439D1002&REV_40\3&18D45AA6&0&A3
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4396&SUBSYS_50041458&REV_00\3&18D45AA6&0&92
   Driver: n/a

     Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1204&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&18D45AA6&0&C4
   Driver: n/a

     Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_597E&SUBSYS_59571002&REV_00\3&18D45AA6&0&48
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_439C&SUBSYS_50021458&REV_40\3&18D45AA6&0&A1
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4390&SUBSYS_B0021458&REV_40\3&18D45AA6&0&88
   Driver: n/a

     Name: PCI standard host CPU bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1203&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&18D45AA6&0&C3
   Driver: n/a

     Name: PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5978&SUBSYS_59571002&REV_00\3&18D45AA6&0&10
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4399&SUBSYS_50041458&REV_00\3&18D45AA6&0&A5
   Driver: n/a

     Name: ATI I/O Communications Processor SMBus Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4385&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_42\3&18D45AA6&0&A0
   Driver: n/a

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DirectShow Filters
------------------

DirectShow Filters:
WMAudio Decoder DMO,0x00800800,1,1,WMADMOD.DLL,6.01.7600.16385
WMAPro over S/PDIF DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMADMOD.DLL,6.01.7600.16385
WMSpeech Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMSPDMOD.DLL,6.01.7600.16385
MP3 Decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,mp3dmod.dll,6.01.7600.16385
Mpeg4s Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,mp4sdecd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
WMV Screen decoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvsdecd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
WMVideo Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,wmvdecod.dll,6.01.7600.16385
Mpeg43 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,mp43decd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
Mpeg4 Decoder DMO,0x00800001,1,1,mpg4decd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
CineForm J2K Decoder,0x00800001,1,1,CFDecodeJ2K.ax,4.07.0000.0328
CineForm VideoChange,0x00200000,1,1,CFVideoChange.ax,3.01.0000.0056
CineForm TempoChange,0x00200000,1,1,CFTempoChange.ax,1.01.0005.0004
CineForm Muxer,0x00200000,2,1,CFMuxer.ax,1.01.0000.0009
ATI Ticker,0x00200000,0,1,Ticker.ax,
DV Muxer,0x00400000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.06.7600.16385
MainConcept MPEG Demultiplexer,0x00800100,1,2,mc_demux_mp2_ds.ax,9.05.0007.2154
Color Space Converter,0x00400001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16385
LAV Splitter,0x00800004,1,1,LAVSplitter.ax,0.44.0000.0000
MainConcept AMR Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,mc_dec_amr_ds.ax,9.06.0008.2473
WM ASF Reader,0x00400000,0,0,qasf.dll,12.00.7600.16385
MainConcept AAC Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,mc_dec_aac_ds.ax,9.05.0007.2154
CineForm HDSDICapture,0x00600000,0,1,CFHDSDICapture.ax,1.03.0000.0018
Screen Capture filter,0x00200000,0,1,wmpsrcwp.dll,12.00.7600.16385
AVI Splitter,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16385
Wafian QuickTime Mux,0x00200000,2,0,Wafian.QTMux.dll,1.04.0000.0009
GoPro-CineForm Encoder (Multicore),0x00200000,1,1,CFEncoder2.ax,8.03.0004.0656
VGA 16 Color Ditherer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16385
GoPro-CineForm RAW Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,CFEncoderRAW.ax,8.03.0004.0656
SBE2MediaTypeProfile,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7600.16385
Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder,0x005fffff,2,4,msmpeg2vdec.dll,6.01.7140.0000
CineForm AVI File Writer,0x00200000,1,0,CFAviWriter.ax,1.00.0000.0001
AC3 Parser Filter,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.7600.16385
MainConcept MP4 Demultiplexer,0x00800101,1,2,mc_demux_mp4_ds.ax,9.05.0007.2154
StreamBufferSink,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7600.16385
MainConcept Layer II Audio Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,mc_dec_mpa_ds.ax,9.05.0007.2154
MJPEG Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16385
CineForm Strider,0x00200000,1,1,CFStrider.ax,1.01.0004.0021
MPEG-I Stream Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16385
SAMI (CC) Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16385
VBI Codec,0x00600000,1,4,VBICodec.ax,6.06.7600.16385
ATI MPEG File Writer,0x00200000,1,0,atimpenc.dll,12.10.0000.30328
AMD Video Decoder,0x00200000,1,2,atimpenc.dll,12.10.0000.30328
CineForm JPG2Stream Filter,0x00200000,0,1,JPEGS2Stream.dll,1.02.0002.0005
CineForm RAW2Stream Filter,0x00200000,0,1,RAW2Stream.dll,1.02.0002.0005
MPEG-2 Splitter,0x005fffff,1,0,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.7600.16385
MainConcept MJ2 Video Decoder,0x00400001,1,1,mc_dec_j2k_ds.ax,9.06.0008.2473
WAV Dest,0x00200000,0,0,wavdest.ax,
Closed Captions Analysis Filter,0x00200000,2,5,cca.dll,6.06.7600.16385
SBE2FileScan,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7600.16385
CineForm Audio Mux,0x00200000,2,1,CFAudioMux.ax,1.00.0000.0001
Microsoft MPEG-2 Video Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,msmpeg2enc.dll,6.01.7600.16385
CineForm Demuxer,0x00200000,1,2,CFDemuxer.ax,2.01.0012.0025
Internal Script Command Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16385
CineForm HDSDIRenderer,0x00200000,1,0,CFHDSDIRenderer.ax,2.00.0000.0021
MPEG Audio Decoder,0x03680001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16385
MMACE ProcAmp,0x00200000,0,2,MMACEFilters.dll,
DV Splitter,0x00600000,1,2,qdv.dll,6.06.7600.16385
Video Mixing Renderer 9,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16385
CineForm TSSink,0x00200000,1,1,CFTSSink.ax,1.02.0020.0036
CineForm UpRes,0x00200000,1,1,CFUpRes.ax,1.06.0000.0023
MainConcept MXF Demultiplexer,0x00800000,1,2,mc_demux_mxf_ds.ax,9.05.0007.2154
Microsoft MPEG-2 Encoder,0x00200000,2,1,msmpeg2enc.dll,6.01.7600.16385
CineForm YUV16 Converter,0x00800000,1,1,YUV16Converter.ax,1.00.0002.0004
ATI MPEG Audio Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,atimpenc.dll,12.10.0000.30328
AMD MJPEG Decoder,0x00200000,1,1,atimpenc.dll,12.10.0000.30328
ACM Wrapper,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16385
Video Renderer,0x00800001,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16385
MPEG-2 Video Stream Analyzer,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7600.16385
Line 21 Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,qdvd.dll,6.06.7600.16385
Video Port Manager,0x00600000,2,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16385
Wafian QuickTime DeMux,0x00600000,0,2,Wafian.QTDeMux.dll,1.04.0000.0009
Video Renderer,0x00400000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16385
Intel® Media SDK H.264 Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,h264_enc_filter.dll,2.10.0011.0012
AMD Video Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,atimpenc.dll,12.10.0000.30328
CineForm MP4 AudioSourcePush,0x00200000,0,1,CFMP4AudioSourcePush.ax,1.01.0000.0004
ATI MPEG Multiplexer,0x00200000,2,1,atimpenc.dll,12.10.0000.30328
VPS Decoder,0x00200000,0,0,WSTPager.ax,6.06.7600.16385
CineForm Dumper,0x00200000,1,0,CFDumper.ax,1.00.0004.0023
WM ASF Writer,0x00400000,0,0,qasf.dll,12.00.7600.16385
MediaLooks QT Source,0x00200000,0,2,QTsourcePXT.dll,1.07.0000.0024
VBI Surface Allocator,0x00600000,1,1,vbisurf.ax,6.01.7600.16385
MMACE SoftEmu,0x00200000,0,2,MMACEFilters.dll,
File writer,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7600.16385
MainConcept DV-Demultiplexer,0x00800001,1,2,mc_demux_dv_ds.ax,9.05.0007.2154
iTV Data Sink,0x00600000,1,0,itvdata.dll,6.06.7600.16385
iTV Data Capture filter,0x00600000,1,1,itvdata.dll,6.06.7600.16385
AMD Video Scaler Filter,0x00200000,1,1,atimpenc.dll,12.10.0000.30328
Intel® Media SDK AAC Decoder,0x00200000,1,1,imc_aac_dec_ds.dll,1.10.0010.0008
CineForm AudioSourcePush,0x00200000,0,1,CFAudioSourcePush.ax,0.01.0002.0004
MainConcept AVC/H.264 Video Decoder,0x00800001,1,2,mc_dec_avc_ds.ax,9.05.0007.2154
WAV Dest,0x00000000,0,0,,
DVD Navigator,0x00200000,0,3,qdvd.dll,6.06.7600.16385
CineForm Stereo Fixer,0x00200000,1,1,CFStereoFixer.ax,1.01.0004.0021
CineForm Buffered Unfaker,0x00200000,1,1,CFBufUnfaker.ax,1.02.0000.0011
MMACE DeInterlace,0x00200000,0,2,MMACEFilters.dll,
Overlay Mixer2,0x00200000,1,1,qdvd.dll,6.06.7600.16385
Intel® Media SDK MP4 Splitter,0x00200000,1,0,imc_mp4_spl_ds.dll,1.12.0010.0028
AVI Draw,0x00600064,9,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16385
RDP DShow Redirection Filter,0xffffffff,1,0,DShowRdpFilter.dll,
MainConcept DV Dif Parser,0x00800001,1,1,mc_parser_dv_ds.ax,9.05.0007.2154
CineForm Audio Inject,0x00200000,0,1,CFAudioInject.ax,1.01.0000.0010
Microsoft MPEG-2 Audio Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,msmpeg2enc.dll,6.01.7600.16385
WST Pager,0x00200000,1,1,WSTPager.ax,6.06.7600.16385
GoPro-CineForm Decoder-2,0x00800002,1,1,CFDecode2.ax,8.04.0003.0660
CineForm Y Spreader,0x00200000,1,1,YSpreader.ax,1.01.0000.0008
CineForm TSSourcePush,0x00200000,0,1,CFTSSourcePush.ax,1.00.0007.0022
MPEG-2 Demultiplexer,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.7600.16385
MainConcept (Broadcast) AVC/H.264 Video Decoder,0x00800002,1,2,mc_bc_dec_avc_ds.ax,9.05.0007.2154
DV Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,qdv.dll,6.06.7600.16385
CineForm Video Source,0x00200000,0,1,CFVideoSource.ax,1.01.0001.0023
LAV Splitter Source,0x00800004,0,1,LAVSplitter.ax,0.44.0000.0000
MainConcept MPEG-2 Video Decoder,0x00800001,2,2,mc_dec_mp2v_ds.ax,9.05.0007.2154
CineForm YUVFaker,0x00200000,1,1,CFYUVFaker.ax,1.01.0000.0008
MainConcept VC-1 Video Decoder,0x00600000,2,1,mc_dec_vc1_ds.ax,9.06.0008.2473
SampleGrabber,0x00200000,1,1,qedit.dll,6.06.7600.16385
Null Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,qedit.dll,6.06.7600.16385
MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x005fffff,1,0,Mpeg2Data.ax,6.06.7600.16385
Microsoft AC3 Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,msac3enc.dll,6.01.7600.16385
StreamBufferSource,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7600.16385
Smart Tee,0x00200000,1,2,qcap.dll,6.06.7600.16385
Intel® Media SDK H.264 Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,h264_dec_filter.dll,2.10.0011.0016
Overlay Mixer,0x00200000,0,0,qdvd.dll,6.06.7600.16385
AVI Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16385
MainConcept MPEG Multiplexer,0x00200000,1,1,mc_mux_mp2_ds.ax,9.06.0008.2473
CineForm SampleRate,0x00200000,1,1,CFSampleRate.ax,1.02.0000.0021
AVI/WAV File Source,0x00400000,0,2,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16385
Wave Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16385
MIDI Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16385
Multi-file Parser,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16385
File stream renderer,0x00400000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16385
MainConcept DVCPro HD Video Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,mc_dec_dv100_ds.ax,9.05.0007.2154
CineForm Stereo Mux,0x00200000,2,1,CFStereoMux.ax,1.02.0002.0005
MainConcept DVCPro 50 Video Decoder,0x00600000,1,1,mc_dec_dv50_ds.ax,9.06.0008.2473
MainConcept Stream Parser,0x00400000,1,2,mc_demux_mp2_ds.ax,9.05.0007.2154
AMD Video Rotation Filter,0x00200000,1,1,atimpenc.dll,12.10.0000.30328
GoPro-CineForm Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,CFEncode.ax,8.03.0004.0656
Microsoft DTV-DVD Audio Decoder,0x005fffff,1,1,msmpeg2adec.dll,6.01.7140.0000
StreamBufferSink2,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.7600.16385
AVI Mux,0x00200000,1,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7600.16385
Line 21 Decoder 2,0x00600002,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16385
File Source (Async.),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16385
File Source (URL),0x00400000,0,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16385
Intel® Media SDK AAC Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,imc_aac_enc_ds.dll,1.10.0010.0008
CineForm V210 Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,V210Decoder.ax,1.00.0001.0003
CineForm OnOffSwitch,0x00200000,1,1,CFOnOffSwitch.ax,1.00.0003.0004
LAV Audio Decoder,0x00800003,1,1,LAVAudio.ax,0.44.0000.0000
LAV Video Decoder,0x00800003,1,1,LAVVideo.ax,0.44.0000.0000
CineForm MXF Reader,0x00200000,0,1,CFMXFReader.ax,2.01.0002.0014
MainConcept MVC/AVC/H.264 Video Decoder,0x00800001,1,2,mc_dec_mvc_ds.ax,1.00.0000.60981
Infinite Pin Tee Filter,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7600.16385
MainConcept AVC/H.264 Video Encoder,0x00200000,2,1,mc_enc_avc_ds.ax,9.06.0008.2473
Enhanced Video Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,evr.dll,6.01.7600.16385
MainConcept MVC Muxer,0x00200000,1,1,mc_mux_mvc_ds.ax,
BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter,0x00200000,2,0,psisrndr.ax,6.06.7600.16385
MainConcept MPEG-4 Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,mc_dec_mp4v_ds.ax,9.06.0008.2473
MPEG Video Decoder,0x40000001,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16385

WDM Streaming Tee/Splitter Devices:
Tee/Sink-to-Sink Converter,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7600.16385

MediaLooks Filters:
MediaLooks QT Source,0x00200000,0,2,QTsourcePXT.dll,1.07.0000.0024

Video Compressors:
WMVideo8 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvxencd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
WMVideo9 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvencod.dll,6.01.7600.16385
MSScreen 9 encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,wmvsencd.dll,6.01.7600.16385
DV Video Encoder,0x00200000,0,0,qdv.dll,6.06.7600.16385
MainConcept AVC/H.264 Video Encoder,0x00200000,2,1,mc_enc_avc_ds.ax,9.06.0008.2473
MJPEG Compressor,0x00200000,0,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16385
GoPro-CineForm Encoder (Multicore),0x00200000,1,1,CFEncoder2.ax,8.03.0004.0656
GoPro-CineForm RAW Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,CFEncoderRAW.ax,8.03.0004.0656
GoPro-CineForm Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,CFEncode.ax,8.03.0004.0656
GoPro-CineForm Codec v8.4.3,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7600.16385
Cinepak Codec by Radius,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7600.16385
Intel IYUV codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7600.16385
Intel IYUV codec,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7600.16385
Microsoft RLE,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7600.16385
Microsoft Video 1,0x00200000,1,1,qcap.dll,6.06.7600.16385

Audio Compressors:
WM Speech Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMSPDMOE.DLL,6.01.7600.16385
WMAudio Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,WMADMOE.DLL,6.01.7600.16385
ATI MPEG Audio Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,atimpenc.dll,12.10.0000.30328
IMA ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16385
PCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16385
Microsoft ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16385
GSM 6.10,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16385
CCITT A-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16385
CCITT u-Law,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16385
MPEG Layer-3,0x00200000,1,1,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16385

Audio Capture Sources:
Microphone (3- Razer Megalodon),0x00200000,0,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7600.16385
Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High De,0x00200000,0,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7600.16385
Microphone (High Definition Aud,0x00200000,0,0,qcap.dll,6.06.7600.16385

PBDA CP Filters:
PBDA DTFilter,0x00600000,1,1,CPFilters.dll,6.06.7600.16385
PBDA ETFilter,0x00200000,0,0,CPFilters.dll,6.06.7600.16385
PBDA PTFilter,0x00200000,0,0,CPFilters.dll,6.06.7600.16385

Midi Renderers:
Default MidiOut Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16385
Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16385

WDM Streaming Capture Devices:
HD Audio Mixed capture,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7600.16385
HD Audio Digital in,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7600.16385
Razer Megalodon,0x00200000,2,2,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7600.16385

WDM Streaming Rendering Devices:
HD Audio SPDIF out 5,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7600.16385
HD Audio SPDIF out,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7600.16385
Razer Megalodon,0x00200000,2,2,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7600.16385

BDA Network Providers:
Microsoft ATSC Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7600.16385
Microsoft DVBC Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7600.16385
Microsoft DVBS Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7600.16385
Microsoft DVBT Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.7600.16385
Microsoft Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSNP.ax,6.06.7600.16385

Multi-Instance Capable VBI Codecs:
VBI Codec,0x00600000,1,4,VBICodec.ax,6.06.7600.16385

BDA Transport Information Renderers:
BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter,0x00600000,2,0,psisrndr.ax,6.06.7600.16385
MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x00600000,1,0,Mpeg2Data.ax,6.06.7600.16385

BDA CP/CA Filters:
Decrypt/Tag,0x00600000,1,1,EncDec.dll,6.06.7600.16385
Encrypt/Tag,0x00200000,0,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.7600.16385
PTFilter,0x00200000,0,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.7600.16385
XDS Codec,0x00200000,0,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.7600.16385

WDM Streaming Communication Transforms:
Tee/Sink-to-Sink Converter,0x00200000,1,1,ksproxy.ax,6.01.7600.16385

Audio Renderers:
Speakers (3- Razer Megalodon),0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16385
Default DirectSound Device,0x00800000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16385
Default WaveOut Device,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16385
Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High De,0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16385
DirectSound: Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device),0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16385
DirectSound: Speakers (3- Razer Megalodon),0x00200000,1,0,quartz.dll,6.06.7600.16385

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EVR Power Information
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Current Setting: {5C67A112-A4C9-483F-B4A7-1D473BECAFDC} (Quality) 
  Quality Flags: 2576
    Enabled:
    Force throttling
    Allow half deinterlace
    Allow scaling
    Decode Power Usage: 100
  Balanced Flags: 1424
    Enabled:
    Force throttling
    Allow batching
    Force half deinterlace
    Force scaling
    Decode Power Usage: 50
  PowerFlags: 1424
    Enabled:
    Force throttling
    Allow batching
    Force half deinterlace
    Force scaling
    Decode Power Usage: 0
 

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Belsameth
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Re: Maia Alpha 0.33 test build.

Post by Belsameth » Sun Sep 01, 2013 4:32 pm

SilverWarior wrote:Like many others I'm still expiriencing random crashes related to FMod sound system.

Anywhay I did manage to modify shader files again so I can athleast run the game.

Here are modified shaders for Maia 0.33 build which should compile on older graphics cards with Level 3 shader support.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/653 ... haders.zip
NOTE: Since I only changed the first line in the shader files which define the minimum shader level support required for compiling these shaders they could cause new unexpected bugs.
USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!
This doesn't actually solve anything and doesn't help bug hunting, as this can cause all kinds of issues that *will* be wrongly reported.

SilverWarior
Posts: 18
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Re: Maia Alpha 0.33 test build.

Post by SilverWarior » Sun Sep 01, 2013 5:16 pm

Belsameth wrote:This doesn't actually solve anything and doesn't help bug hunting, as this can cause all kinds of issues that *will* be wrongly reported.
This alows pepole with older graphics cards who bought the game to athleast be able to run the game and see aproximately how the game should look like.

To be honest so far I hadn't got any new shader related problems myself but I still wrote that warning becouse the approach I used for modifying shader files should not be considered safe.
In case if shaders would use any special commands specific to newer shaders it could lead to all sorts of problems. But luckily current shaders doesn't use any of these commands.

Another reason why I did this is to kinda help Simon with preparing fallback shaders that he is working on for those pepole with older hardware.

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Tikigod
Posts: 152
Joined: Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:29 pm

Re: Maia Alpha 0.33 test build.

Post by Tikigod » Sun Sep 01, 2013 6:43 pm

SilverWarior wrote:
Belsameth wrote:This doesn't actually solve anything and doesn't help bug hunting, as this can cause all kinds of issues that *will* be wrongly reported.
This alows pepole with older graphics cards who bought the game to athleast be able to run the game and see aproximately how the game should look like.
Actually it doesn't. If all you're doing is changing the shader OpenGL version support definition, all those shaders are doing are exposing people to shaders that will crap on their carpet the moment it encounters something that calls for OpenGL 4.x behaviour... offering the files just makes life harder for Simon to respond and pinpoint reported problems because he then has to check if the person is using unstable hacky shaders that someone else is distributing behind his back.
To be honest so far I hadn't got any new shader related problems myself but I still wrote that warning becouse the approach I used for modifying shader files should not be considered safe.
In case if shaders would use any special commands specific to newer shaders it could lead to all sorts of problems. But luckily current shaders doesn't use any of these commands.

Another reason why I did this is to kinda help Simon with preparing fallback shaders that he is working on for those pepole with older hardware.
If all you're doing is changing just the version support definition on the shaders, you're not helping prepare anything. You're just giving people unstable hack arounds. ;)

Use them yourself, sure go for it. But don't file a support post claiming your hack arounds don't work in a month or two if shaders are changed to introduce more functionality that calls to 4.x functionality.

But don't start distributing them publicly to people and saying "This will solve your problem and let you see what the game will generally look like" and just stamping on a empty warning... if Simon wanted to have the shaders back support version prior to 4.x he would of had the back support definition call state 3.x himself.

Don't take the alpha, change things around and redistribute with your changes and claim you're trying to 'help', because it's just likely going to make more headaches for those working on the game when they have to respond to people who blindly use what you're peddling.
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Re: Maia Alpha 0.33 test build.

Post by SilverWarior » Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:09 pm

If it is Simon's desire for me not to provide these "hacked" shaders I will remove them.

Besides when new version of Maia comes out I will convert the shaders of that version and try them myself first before publishing them.
For the curent shaders I published I even used Shader Designer which has built in shader debugger to verify that they compile and run without problems on my computer. But this is no guarantee that they will work for everyone. That is why I also isued the warning.

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Re: Maia Alpha 0.33 test build.

Post by Belsameth » Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:27 pm

Because Simon hasn't given a final ruling yet, I haven't yet removed the link.

Either way, there's no need to have a large discussion on all the pro's and cons of your "solution" so lets stop derailing this topic any further.

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